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Re: US Open 2012

Post by Guest on Sat 1 Sep 2012 - 21:03

He really likes feeding his opponents these crumbs of comfort. If he loses this one he can only blame himself. Seems to be struggling physically.

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Post by Guest on Sat 1 Sep 2012 - 21:07

Odd as well. If he is physically struggling then why? Is it the heat? I still don't get that as Andy trains in Miami and so is well used to the heat and besides it is the same for both players and Lopez has had two tougher matches than Andy to get here playing a four and a quarter hour match two days ago whilst Andy has had an extra day off. Lopez breaks and will serve for the third set.

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Post by Guest on Sat 1 Sep 2012 - 21:12

And Lopez takes the third set 6-4. Murray could unravel here and looks shattered physically. He can only blame himself for this predicament.

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Post by Guest on Sat 1 Sep 2012 - 21:17

I can't look. Nipping over to see Fleming and Hutchins who have just won the first set. The knot in my stomach is back Sad

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Post by Guest on Sat 1 Sep 2012 - 21:20

Well at least held serve to lead 1-0 but movement is very poor. I would say he has some sort of an injury rather than it being fatigue.

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Post by Jubbahey on Sat 1 Sep 2012 - 21:24

Nothing of the sort.

Andy has brought his "C" game, you know, the one where he chucks points away like they're going out of fashion, its nothing more than ADHD, loss of focus and concentration.

I even expect him to lose this set, such is his capitulation, unless he manages to get into gear and stop making irresponsible tactical suicide decisions.

Its not pleasing to watch and I'm sure his entourage are as bewildered as us, as to why he can turn it off so completely sometimes.

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Post by Jubbahey on Sat 1 Sep 2012 - 21:26

To be brutally honest, he should not have won the 2nd set, such was his shot selection and tactical nous during the tie break.

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Post by Guest on Sat 1 Sep 2012 - 21:26

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Post by Guest on Sat 1 Sep 2012 - 22:28

Well that was a nerve-mangler. I think Lopez ended up with more points than Andy, but Andy got the ones that mattered.

He seemed to hit a wall in that third set - maybe it was the heat and humidity? He wasn't chasing balls at all, and that is not like him. Then as the fourth set went on he seemed to perk up, maybe it got cooler as the day went on.

I hope the "Dodig" Andy turns up for the next match, not the "Bogomolov" or "Lopez" Andy. Though to be fair, Feli played extremely well.

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Post by Jubbahey on Sat 1 Sep 2012 - 22:31

In the end, it was Lopez who faltered and Andy prevailed.

But that last passing shot across the chest of Lopez was the winner ( in the previous point ) and gave Andy a little more momentum going into the Match Point.

Just how he got there is far more interesting than all the gains and losses in the previous sets. Lopez looking so strong in the tie breaks, but Andy managed to scrape through his own serves to put pressure on Lopez's normally accurate 1st serve to give him a chance to attack the Lopez second serve.

And in the end, that was all he needed.

A very close match that could well have gone into a 5th set, but Andy prevailed and that is now all history.

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Post by Jubbahey on Sat 1 Sep 2012 - 22:33

Hi Dec, another roller coaster from the Andy Murray think tank.

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Post by Guest on Sat 1 Sep 2012 - 22:38

I don't think Andy really played that badly. His movement was very poor for whatever reason and credit Feliciano Lopez as that is the best I have ever seen him play. That is why it ended up being so close - Lopez brought a much-improved game to the table compared to a year ago.

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Post by Guest on Sat 1 Sep 2012 - 22:40

I have to go for a lie down. 4 hours of adrenalin heart stopping high octane tension for a Saturday night is enough for me. Our man got there in the end, well played to both clap

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Post by Jubbahey on Sat 1 Sep 2012 - 22:41

That 3rd set was "BAD" CC however you saw it, Andy just lost the hunger and need, gave it all up in 3 games. Lopez didnt win those two breaks, it was Andy who handed them to him on a plate.

But, i'm not denying Felic's play, he was better than any other time they've played.

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Post by Guest on Sat 1 Sep 2012 - 22:42

It was a great match. Hopefully, better stuff to come from Andy with better movement. Next up he plays either Milos Raonic or James Blake.

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Post by Jubbahey on Sat 1 Sep 2012 - 22:42

So its bye bye from me too, a quick snifter and feet up then bed.

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Post by Jubbahey on Sun 2 Sep 2012 - 14:37

No excuses from Murray, he seems to be saying that he was tired with the temp and humidity, although he didn't say as much but nothing about an injury, unless I've missed something ?

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Post by Guest on Sun 2 Sep 2012 - 14:48

Well BBC did quote him as saying he 'struggled physically' now I'd assume that was purely due to the heat and not an injury he is keeping under wraps ie the one that caused him to pull out of the last tournament. It makes me wonder whether there is as he also said: "It's the last major event of the year and you want to push through anything physically. I will be out here in the next match giving 100%."

Hopefully, he can sort whatever the issue is/was out and come out firing V Raonic. A day or two ago I was ultra-confident he will beat Raonic but now I am not so confident but do still expect him to win. Here's hoping it is an evening or night match away from the mid-day heat.

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Post by Jubbahey on Sun 2 Sep 2012 - 15:52

And after all's said and done, maybe Mark Petchey knows his onions and MTS1 was right to be wary of Lopez after listening to their opinions.

What I do know, is that Murray dipped precariously towards a total breakdown of confidence and mental strength during that match, but maintained quite a good level of both in the 4th set after coming back from that dire 3rd.

What he may well take away from that contest is the knowledge that he has the stamina...just...to keep going and going, even when then other guy just doesn't stop a relenting service game, time after time. He hung in there which tells a different story to one we have been used to in the past. But ever since that gruelling 5 setter against Djoko in the Aussie open, his belief must have been galvanised against such worries that he can last out in physical matches like that.

Raonic will test him further, as much as Lopez ? I don't know, can he serve any better than Feliciano, as that was as much perfect as one can do over 4 sets of marathon tennis.

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Post by Guest on Sun 2 Sep 2012 - 15:59

Raonic has a far more potent serve than Lopez but I'd definitely say the Spaniard possesses a better all round game. As we know Murray is one of the best returners of serve in the game and he'll need it tomorrow. When rallies do develop Raonic is one-dimensional and will resort to the power of his booming forehand. If Murray brings his best to the court as does Raonic then Murray wins.

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Post by Jubbahey on Sun 2 Sep 2012 - 16:02

Certainly on paper I see it that way, but who'd have guessed the Lopez match would go to such extremes ?

On paper it was a walkover for Murray, but when one dips and the other rises, then it can happen like that.

As you say, as long as Murray brings his normal "A" game, then, although it may be close, Murray must win on his better return game and variety of shot in rallies.

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Post by Guest on Sun 2 Sep 2012 - 16:06

I really don't think Murray dipped too much. Put it this way he played better than he did against Bogomolov Jnr. His real fault was his loss of focus perhaps caused by trying to conserve energy once he had the break in the third set. Also Lopez excelled. I'd say that is one of the best matches I have ever seen him play hence why it was a lot closer. Lopez at his best and Murray decent but patchy and yet Murray still won.

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Post by Jubbahey on Sun 2 Sep 2012 - 17:12

He's got to improve.

I think he will, slams are not events where you can guarantee steady progress from match to match in an upward curve of improvement or peaking at ones best in the final, but most top players have mediocre matches or sets where they lose a bit of composure or whatever.

He's had one bad match, one bad set and one bad game in that set. Overall, he's on target as much as the scorelines go, so lets hope his bad games were all in the 1st week. He could get worse depending on the real reasons behind his lack of form in the 3rd and 4th set, but Lopez did push the limits with some stunning play, so I suppose we can be happy with the result of that match, he just needs to nurture more consistency on his serve which we know he possesses.

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Post by Guest on Sun 2 Sep 2012 - 18:04

Oh yes he definitely needs to improve. Annabel Croft made a very good point post-match on Sky. She has seen most of Murray's matches and she can't recall seeing him have one match where he doesn't have a dip in form/focus. I'd agree with that and would say that explains why he ha never won a slam - in a nutshell. He can get to finals and semis in slams as dips against lesser players he can get away with but not with the Federer's, Nadal's and Djokovic's of this world.

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Post by Guest on Sun 2 Sep 2012 - 18:41

I'm not too nervous about Andy playing Raonic. He reminds me of Isner, if the serve is not an ace, or very near to it, they are too tall to shift themselves around the court, which Andy is master of to get the points. Lopez was truly inspired against Andy last night and truly believed he could beat him. However he hasn't played him since last year and in that time Andy now mentally is similar to the top 3 in believing he is never beaten until the last ball is hit.

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